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ER32 Chuck

Post by dazz »

Hello

I purchased a ER32 chuck and collet set. The chuck holder is a standard 3MT version. Fine for my mill, but not so useful for the lathe. I made a chuck adapter.

The photos are not quite in the right order, but you should get the idea.

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Dazz
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My design for an ER32 chuck.
My design for an ER32 chuck.
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The collet nut end before threading.
The collet nut end before threading.
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This photo is out of order.  It shows internal threading using a boring tool made for the job.  Making tools to make more tools.
This photo is out of order. It shows internal threading using a boring tool made for the job. Making tools to make more tools.
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Lots of chips.
Lots of chips.
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Drilling out the workpiece.
Drilling out the workpiece.
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The adapter internal thread was tested with my very first project.  The spindle to 3MT adapter has exactly the same thread as the lathe spindle.  I was able to test the internal thread for fit without removing the work from the 4-jaw chuck.  As a final check, I removed the 4-jaw chuck with the work held in it and screwed the new adapter onto the lathe spindle.
The adapter internal thread was tested with my very first project. The spindle to 3MT adapter has exactly the same thread as the lathe spindle. I was able to test the internal thread for fit without removing the work from the 4-jaw chuck. As a final check, I removed the 4-jaw chuck with the work held in it and screwed the new adapter onto the lathe spindle.
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Machining the C-spanner slots.  The workpiece was bolted to the angle.  The workpiece sat on a piece of key steel.  The vertical tube fixed the lateral position.  This mean't I could rotate the workpiece and clamp into the right position for the next cut.
Machining the C-spanner slots. The workpiece was bolted to the angle. The workpiece sat on a piece of key steel. The vertical tube fixed the lateral position. This mean't I could rotate the workpiece and clamp into the right position for the next cut.
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Using a machined step and trig to set the cross slide angle.  I measured the diameters, and then calculated how far the top slide had to move to get a zero reading on the other step.  It takes time to set up, but provides very accurate results.
Using a machined step and trig to set the cross slide angle. I measured the diameters, and then calculated how far the top slide had to move to get a zero reading on the other step. It takes time to set up, but provides very accurate results.
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Machining the tapered bore using a cermet insert.  These make an excellent finish.
Machining the tapered bore using a cermet insert. These make an excellent finish.
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The finished chuck
The finished chuck
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Re: ER32 Chuck

Post by Bogus105 »

hi Dazz,

can you tell me more about spindle thread? Witworth? BSF?
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Re: ER32 Chuck

Post by dazz »

Bogus105 wrote:hi Dazz,

can you tell me more about spindle thread? Witworth? BSF?
It's like a Whitworth thread with flat tops on the external spindle thread.
Look at this post viewtopic.php?f=50&t=886
I would strongly recommend making a replica of the spindle thread to check the internal thread for fit.
You do not want to remove the workpiece only to find that it won't fit the lathe spindle.
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Re: ER32 Chuck

Post by Bogus105 »

Thread replica would be very helpful, but how to make it on my metric lathe?? If it was imperial version it would be easy to use MT3 arbor with a steel sleeve mounted on it, and cut 8tpi thread on 38.1mm O.D. and then skim it down to exactly the same O.D. as on spindle nose. Mine is metric.
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Re: ER32 Chuck

Post by dazz »

Hi
I had a similar problem with making the metric collet holder thread on an imperial Denford. My solution was to get someone else to make the metric thread on their metric lathe.

You could get a set of change gears to convert from metric to imperial but it would be cheaper to convert to an electronic lead screw (ELS).

No easy answers on this one.
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Dazz
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