Denford Software & Machines

Hi Alan

You can download the Diagnostics in the same way as the Parameters, just use the DGNOS/PARAM key as before and "tab" to the beginning of the Diagnostics lists and output them the same way as the Parameters.

Yes, it is easy to re-load them all again if you have them saved, several days at least if you had to do them all by hand!!!!!

Just set the machine to receive using EDIT and INPUT and send from the PC the same as you would a program, just make sure it is set to the correct screen for what you are loading.

Regards
Rob


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For inputting back in, you may also need to have program protect key switched off, and the PWE=1 bit enabled

Rob
I am trying to save Diagnostics but it does not seem to work , have got the diagnostic parameters on screen in edit mode and pc set to recieve I press output and nothing happens , am I doing something wrong ??
Alan

Rob
what does LSK mean ?
Alan

Rob
sorry to keep bothering you but have been looking through my Denford manual and looking at Parameters list , might not be anything but the list that I have donloaded and save is no where near as long as the list in manual , could this be a potential problem ?? or should I take it that the machine list is correct and that there is nothing missing ?? also I have tried all afternoon to try and save Diagnostics params but it does not want to know after I press the out put button nothing whereas the other params when I pressed the output button started downloading straight away and it had the word output flashing on screen , am I missing out something , Press DGNOS/PARAM button go to diagnostics press Edit button the the output button and nothing happens , pc is set to recieve
Alan

It`s only the 450 to 458 diagnostics you need to write down.

I have downloaded and saved the parameters from my Denford Cyclone lathe , they start at 0001 and stop at 0759 , now in the manual that I have for the lathe the numbers start at 0001 and stop at 8299 , are these other parameters missing from my lathe or are the ones that I have saved the correect amount ? hope that makes sense , also I want to save the diagnostics parameters now a very kind person did answer this by saying that i only needed to write down the ones numbered from 450 to 458 could that please be confirmed as there are lots of other parameters showing on screen ? also can someone confirm whether or not it is possible to save diagnostic parameters ?
thanks

black8898 wrote:Rob
I am trying to save Diagnostics but it does not seem to work , have got the diagnostic parameters on screen in edit mode and pc set to recieve I press output and nothing happens , am I doing something wrong ??
Alan

Hi Alan

Sorry, been tied up on other things.

The method of downloading the Diagnostics (Some of them anyway!!) numbers 0300 to 0499 is as described before.

With the PC set to receive and the Diagnostics on screen (Make sure you are on the screen that says "Diagnostics" at the top left of the list of numbers) you get to this by pressing the DGNOS/PARAM key usually twice and you should be on the correct screen.

Then with the "Edit" key pressed (And lit up!!) on the lower "Operators Panel" simply press the "Output" key on the upper keypad and if the PC has been correctly set to receive then the Diagnostics numbers 0300 to 0499 should be downloaded.

I have just tested this sequence (to make sure my memory is functioning!!) on one of my Cyclones and a Bridgeport Mill with Fanuc OM and both worked fine.

Regards
Rob

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Rob
thanks for that but what about the rest of the numbers ?? also as I have said I have saved the other parameters which number 0001 to 0759 that is all that is shown on my screen but in the manual they nimber from 0001 to 8299 , should I just ignore the manual ?? it is just after what you said about if the batteries go or something stupid happens and I lose everyhting I want to be prepared , is there anything else apart from programs and offsets that I need to save ??
Alan

The Fanuc 900 perameter are also important. Make sure you have a copy of them. The 8000 parameters are motor parameters which are set from parameters lower down. around 500ish.

I have the 900/919 how do I save the 8000 ?? if I were to say take the batteries out now would they come back on their own ? or do I have to load them manually ?

Rob
have done exactly as you described on the diagnostics page I moved cursor so it was under 0300 pressed output / start button and nothing happened , have tested that my recieve is set correctly by downloading the other parameters which it did with no problems
Alan

Rob
have just noticed that some of the parameters in Diagnostics are fluctuating is that normal ??

The diagnostics are different from the parameters. They show Fanuc inputs,outputs & timers/counters. Therfore the only diagnostics that can should be changed by the user are the450`s. These are then used by Denford to switch machine options on when fitted.(It may be the type of toolpost fitted or a pneumatic chuck or similar).

black8898 wrote:Rob
have just noticed that some of the parameters in Diagnostics are fluctuating is that normal ??

Yes, that is perfectly normal, in any electrical/electronic system there are small "drifts" for want of a better word and that is what the "flickering" is.

When things are running their "state" changes, for example coolant on to coolant off, this would make a particular Diagnostic change one or all it`s "bits" (The 0s and 1s) you can see from say 0 to 1, this tells those that can "read" these things what the machine is doing and where there might be a problem!!!

Regards
Rob

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black8898 wrote:Rob
have done exactly as you described on the diagnostics page I moved cursor so it was under 0300 pressed output / start button and nothing happened , have tested that my recieve is set correctly by downloading the other parameters which it did with no problems
Alan

Alan

You should be at the beginning of the Diagnostics really but I think it should still work!! Why the Diagnostics are not downloading when the Parameters did so OK I honestly have no idea, as stated before I actually did this on 2 different machines earlier today without problem!!!

Think it needs someone more knowledgable than me on this one!!!
Regards
Rob

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Do I need to copy all the parameters in the Diagnostics or not ? or if the worst happens can I just input the 450 / 458 ? and I still need to know about the other parameters I have managed to download all of them from my machine they number from 0001 to 0759 , now in my manual the go to 8299 should these alraedy be in machine ? are they missing from machine ? or are they not used ? what I do need to know is what I must save make copies of before I start doing to much just in case I do something stupid , all help and advice gratefully received

I think the 8000 patameters are the ones for the digital axes drives.

I would write down any parameters you cannot get output to printer.

Also document all the diagnostics.

Make sure you have everything and save them properly where you will be able to fing them in a couple of years time.

It will be worthwhile if the worst does happen!!

black8898 wrote:Do I need to copy all the parameters in the Diagnostics or not ? or if the worst happens can I just input the 450 / 458 ? and I still need to know about the other parameters I have managed to download all of them from my machine they number from 0001 to 0759 , now in my manual the go to 8299 should these alraedy be in machine ? are they missing from machine ? or are they not used ? what I do need to know is what I must save make copies of before I start doing to much just in case I do something stupid , all help and advice gratefully received

Hi Alan

As Steve rightly says when dealing with CNC controls and especially Fanuc then it is ALWAYS worth spending as much time as required to download/record manually every bit of information you can possibly get to.
(I would download my "Ladders" if I could find a way of doing it!!! I can see them on screen but can`t access them!!! Probably a good thing though!!!)

Just save everythin!!!!!

Regards
Rob

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In the diagnostics there are parameters that are constantly changing what do I do about them ? do I put a zero or a one down ? also what does LSK mean if it shows in the bottom right corner of screen ?