Viceroy 280 synchro getting hot.

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Re: Viceroy 280 synchro getting hot.

Post by patrick oates » Tue 07 Oct , 2014 9:11 am

i agree with what you say as i have got my old gear cutting books out and using the formulae provided the drawing sizes appear to be correct.i can only suspect that the plastic [delrin] has distorted over time to create a more elongated gear tooth or some previos owner made there own gear causing the 100 thou od difference.the 10 thou shaving of the gear has definetley freed it up somewhat

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Re: Viceroy 280 synchro getting hot.

Post by patrick oates » Thu 16 Oct , 2014 9:08 am

this bvs 100/105 for the lay gear where is it.i have trawled through the sites but cant find it

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Re: Viceroy 280 synchro getting hot.

Post by Pete. » Thu 16 Oct , 2014 21:16 pm

It's right here!
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Re: Viceroy 280 synchro getting hot.

Post by rpwilson » Fri 17 Oct , 2014 18:24 pm

Pete. wrote:It's right here!
Yes, thats the final version, incorporating the reductions in OD, PCD and width, following problems with binding.

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Re: Viceroy 280 synchro getting hot.

Post by patrick oates » Thu 23 Oct , 2014 8:46 am

many thanks for the diagrams.i think i am going to make one

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Re: Viceroy 280 synchro getting hot.

Post by patrick oates » Wed 29 Oct , 2014 15:00 pm

the problem is definetley caused by by the technyl distorting over the years.only this can account for the expanded o. d. i have found on both gears.i have reduced both and this has helped will probably need to make new ones though

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Re: Viceroy 280 synchro getting hot.

Post by rpwilson » Wed 29 Oct , 2014 23:49 pm

patrick oates wrote:the problem is definetley caused by by the technyl distorting over the years.only this can account for the expanded o. d. i have found on both gears.i have reduced both and this has helped will probably need to make new ones though
Its still a bit odd. I wouldn't have expected the gear to grow by 100 thou, were they both like that? That much oversize, how could they possibly mesh with the steel gears?

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Re: Viceroy 280 synchro getting hot.

Post by Pete. » Thu 30 Oct , 2014 19:46 pm

When they are cold they mesh fine. When hot you can barely move the handle on the front.

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Re: Viceroy 280 synchro getting hot.

Post by patrick oates » Tue 23 Jun , 2015 8:48 am

just to give an end to this,it was indeed the expansion of the technyl material.i took the layshaft gear out and using a friends milling machine and dividing head I shaved the gear down using a flycutter,a bit slow but it appears to have done the trick,so far it been working fine.i did have to shave agood bit off using drawings previously supplied

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Re: Viceroy 280 synchro getting hot.

Post by Pete. » Tue 23 Jun , 2015 23:17 pm

Patrick,

That's for the follow-up. It will probably help someone in the future.

Pete.

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