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Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Wed 28 Feb , 2018 19:17 pm
by Rgvbaz
sneakym8 wrote:The motor probably just needs new
bearings
Just seen this too! I'll pull it apart and have a look.
On a plus note the Z axis is fine it was just the Jib moving and jamming the z axis. As you say - the head falls down on its own without the gas spring

Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Fri 02 Mar , 2018 23:36 pm
by Rgvbaz
sneakym8 wrote:The motor probably just needs new
bearings
Had a look tonight - looks like the cap/cover for the encoder got pushed down a bit far and the noise was just the end of the servo shaft catching on the cover.
Hopefully I may get to fire her up over the weekend
Dave
Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Sun 04 Mar , 2018 10:26 am
by sneakym8
Thats all good news then .
Looks like it was an easy fix.
Has it still got the Bob Cambell
Break out board fitted ?
Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Sun 04 Mar , 2018 11:24 am
by Rgvbaz
sneakym8 wrote:Thats all good news then .
Looks like it was an easy fix.
Has it still got the Bob Cambell
Break out board fitted ?
Yes that's still there. It looks exactly the same as it did in the pics you posted in your build thread on here Colin.
I posted some pics I took in that thread yesterday.
Dave
Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Mon 05 Mar , 2018 12:40 pm
by sneakym8
Have you had any issues with the spindle making small movements when it is supposed to be idle?
Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Mon 05 Mar , 2018 13:29 pm
by Rgvbaz
Nope but it has only been powered up for an hour yesterday...
As I say it all seemed to work okay. It doesn't move as fast as it did in your video but I think that maybe set-up with Mach.
Do you happen to have the settings you used in Mach?
I'm also trying to figure out the limit switches - the original ones are all in place (2 per axis) but they don't trip the machine.
There are 3 proximity switches (not sure of the correct term ) the do trip when the metal brackets move over them (y and z only the X is dangling loose). I'm assuming they are to be set as home sensors?
I need to set up some soft limits in Mach as I don't want to damage anything.
Dave
Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Mon 05 Mar , 2018 18:38 pm
by sneakym8
Yes they are home switches . The dangling one is definatly not as it was . I will dig around see if i kept the settings . I think it was safely fast traversing at 5m/min
If it had a bit more voltage at the drives it would go a bit faster i think i had a 55v transformer and i think it would go to about 70v , (all this is from memory).there is current limiting resisters on the input of the
Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Mon 05 Mar , 2018 18:44 pm
by sneakym8
Cambell board this is to protect the 8v proximiters fom the 12v coming from the board. The guy that got it from me could not grasp that and thought i had done something really bad wiring the 8v proximiters to 12v so i thought i would explain.
Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Mon 05 Mar , 2018 18:46 pm
by sneakym8
Just thought i would add . The 8v proximiters are original denford and were already fitted.
Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Mon 05 Mar , 2018 21:40 pm
by sneakym8
i think have what you want but can't upload the file here
pm me your email and i will send it
Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Mon 05 Mar , 2018 22:57 pm
by Rgvbaz
Just PM'd you Colin

Re: Triac Z axis counter-balance
Posted: Mon 22 Jul , 2024 16:06 pm
by Rgvbaz
Just for info as it's been 6 years or so since I was working on this Triac and life got in the way...
Anyway, I never did get it going again but I started to go back over it last week and I'm just refreshing my memory on what is what with this thread and add a little more for future reference.
Jobs done:
- X axis ballscrew has to be shimmed as I found the mounting faces for the nut not 100% parallel?
- X axis ballscrew replaced and preloaded with less than a thou backlash.
- Oiler pipe for the X ballscrew fixed and re-positioned as the oil was tracking down the pipe and not dripping onto the screw (possibly why is
failed in the first place?
- Cleaned the ways.
- Y axis screw preloaded and again less than a thou backlash.
- Oiler tested.
- Oiler wired up to test via a conventional plug. I need to find out if I can wire it into the board somehow so it operates when the spindle is
rotating. Note: is wasn't connected to any power so possibly why the X screw never had any oil?
To do:
- Re-shrink wrap the encoder wire that I ripped out of the Y axis servo...
- Drill and ream the new Z axis pulley and cut the keyway (when the broach arrives).
- Add the two seperate gas springs vice the one single it has now. I did suspect this was contributing to the judder in Z movement?
- Wire the X limit switches in and the home sensor.
- Test
A few pictures below. The poor thing has had to sit for may years and really deserves to be working and cutting some chips.

- Triac Z pullys.jpg (263.76 KiB) Viewed 19480 times

- Triac Z pullys.jpg (263.76 KiB) Viewed 19480 times

- Triax x limits.jpg (225.06 KiB) Viewed 19480 times

- Triax - whole machine.jpeg (688.97 KiB) Viewed 19480 times

- x limits and home pic.jpg (43.91 KiB) Viewed 19480 times
Cheers
Dave