Logically I cant see why wire 31 can have no power, as its linked to others with power? Wires 44 and 47 have power?
The breaker with wire 31 going to it, was in the off postion when I got the machine, switching it on makes no difference.
Attached. diagram I refer to.
Bob
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BobEmimec wrote:Logically I cant see why wire 31 can have no power, as its linked to others with power? Wires 44 and 47 have power?
The breaker with wire 31 going to it, was in the off postion when I got the machine, switching it on makes no difference.
Attached. diagram I refer to.
Bob
I assume then that wires 7,8 and 9 have 115V??
If so do wires 32 and 33, if there is 115V at 7,8 and 9 and also at 32 and 33 with the breaker in the ON position and no 115V at wire 31 then it is a faulty breaker!!
It may even only be a bad connection at wire 7 where it goes into the bottom of the breaker, or a bad connection at wire 31 where it goes into the breaker, I would be checking those first!!
These CNC machines never like being moved!!
That is the 115V AC feed to the spindle drive unit, if it is a phase down then the alarms you have on screen would be correct for that fault.
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Rob
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Hi Rob
There is power at all of them except 31 and where it comes out or in at 7 on the same breaker. No power as you suggest if breaker turned off.
This is what baffles me, all the others that use 7 are linked, so it must be as you say, dodgy connection to the breaker. In the attached layout sheet, you can see how 7 is linked from SMF, SD MD breakers, although we dont have the SMF one. We took 7 out of SD breaker, no power, but there is on the MD breaker connection for 7. I will look at this in the morning. I feel the problem could be in front of my nose !!!
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Bob
There is power at all of them except 31 and where it comes out or in at 7 on the same breaker. No power as you suggest if breaker turned off.
This is what baffles me, all the others that use 7 are linked, so it must be as you say, dodgy connection to the breaker. In the attached layout sheet, you can see how 7 is linked from SMF, SD MD breakers, although we dont have the SMF one. We took 7 out of SD breaker, no power, but there is on the MD breaker connection for 7. I will look at this in the morning. I feel the problem could be in front of my nose !!!
Thanks
Bob
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BobEmimec wrote:Hi Rob
There is power at all of them except 31 and where it comes out or in at 7 on the same breaker. No power as you suggest if breaker turned off.
This is what baffles me, all the others that use 7 are linked, so it must be as you say, dodgy connection to the breaker. In the attached layout sheet, you can see how 7 is linked from SMF, SD MD breakers, although we dont have the SMF one. We took 7 out of SD breaker, no power, but there is on the MD breaker connection for 7. I will look at this in the morning. I feel the problem could be in front of my nose !!!
Thanks
Bob
Wires 7,8 and 9 come direct from the main drive transformer, they should go to the Spindle Drive breaker first according to the drawing, that is the one with the wires 31, 32 and 33 coming from it, the other 2 breakers are linked from that breaker so if there is no 115V at wire 7 on one breaker then there should be no 115V at wire 7 on any of the 3 breakers.
If it goes to one of the other breakers first and links back to the one with 31, 32 and 33 then you will have to back track every connection on all three breakers back to the transformer!!
You need to check that you have 115V on all three wires numbered 7,8 and 9 at the transformer, if you have then there is either a break somewhere in the 7 wire or a bad connection somewhere between the transformer and the breaker!
If you don`t have power on the 3 outputs numbered 7,8 and 9 from the transformer then the transformer is faulty or there is a phase missing going in on the wires numbered 4,5 and 6.
You will have to tread a litte carefully and double check the cable numbering as it may not match exactly what you have, the drawings you have are from 1998 which is nearly 10 years after your machine I believe???
Slow process of going all the way through from the 3 phase input checking where you do and don`t have power, just a process of elimination!!
Pity I don`t live closer, I could have given you a hand!!
I am surprised there isn`t someone down your "neck of the woods" with a Cyclone that could help you out!!
Regards
Rob
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Power is now restored to the breaker, I made a mistake, it was wire 9.
Simple remove and replace. Power now at all points on the breakers.
Followed your advice, set PWE to 1, can now input.
Now I'm stuck, parameters for the diagnostics confuse me. If looking at parameter 450, do I run along all the 8 zero's and change some to 2,3, 4 if that is what is on the list?
Bob
Power is now restored to the breaker, I made a mistake, it was wire 9.
Simple remove and replace. Power now at all points on the breakers.
Followed your advice, set PWE to 1, can now input.
Now I'm stuck, parameters for the diagnostics confuse me. If looking at parameter 450, do I run along all the 8 zero's and change some to 2,3, 4 if that is what is on the list?
Bob
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Hi BobEmimec wrote:Hi
Power is now restored to the breaker, I made a mistake, it was wire 9.
Simple remove and replace. Power now at all points on the breakers.
Followed your advice, set PWE to 1, can now input.
Now I'm stuck, parameters for the diagnostics confuse me. If looking at parameter 450, do I run along all the 8 zero's and change some to 2,3, 4 if that is what is on the list?
Bob
Before you go doing anything to Parameters/Diagnostics do you now have a machine with no alarms???
Do you get all the contactors engaging as described??
Can you now "Home" the machine??
FYI Whenever you change a Parameter or Diagnostic (WRITE THE ORIGINAL DOWN FIRST) you should have got a "100" alarm which you ignore when you enabled the PWE.
To make a change you have to re-input all 8 digits, for example if it is "10001000" and you want to make the last digit a 1 then you have to type the whole thing with the digit changed eg "10001001" and then press input, you can`t just change a single digit without typing the whole 8 each time!!
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Rob
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Hi BobEmimec wrote:Hi
I still have the alarms, and the 100 alarm. I cant home the machine
Bob
You have to disable the PWE back to "0" setting to get rid of the 100 alarm, if you have already done that and pressing the "reset" button doesn`t get rid of it you may need to power down and then back on again.
If the machine is still in it`s "E Stop" mode with the original alarms on screen then no, you won`t be able to home or do any movements and having the "E Stop" button in or out won`t do anything either.
If you now have power through the contact breakers in the power box going to the Main Spindle Drive unit in the Control Box and it still doesn`t work then it does look like you will have to wait for your new Fanuc bit to arrive before you can go any further!!
A while ago you did say you had a "Low Battery" alarm as well, has this gone now?? I would be worried about switching it off if there is a dodgy battery connection as you can lose all your parameters etc if there is no battery power!!
Thanks BRADDERS, I had forgotten to mention that the digits number up from the right starting from "0" and not from the left as would be normal.
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Rob
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Hi BobEmimec wrote:Thanks all. I will have to wait for the new bit from the states. I still have my not ready alarm, and the other 2. I noticed parameters 51 and 58 in the diagnostics screen flicker alot ? all others are ok?
Bob
Don`t worry about the flickering, that is normal for a lot of the Diagnostics.
Means something is working and the 1s and 0s would tell a Fanuc engineer exactly what the particular item is doing and what "state" it is in.
Everything is being "balanced" for want of a better word all the time, particularly things like the X and Z axis drive motors which are constantly being checked and set by the drives.
My 51 and 58 flicker as well and my machines run fine, don`t worry about those!!
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Hi BobEmimec wrote:Many thanks all.
I did get rid of the low battery alarm, all ok in that department.
I will wait now for the part from America, and update all when it is fitted.
At least one of the alarms has gone, so its a step in the right direction !!
Bob
OK, glad it`s getting closer for you.
Give you time to get the RS232 connection sorted??
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Rob
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Oh well ! back to the drawing board !
New power supply fitted, still 2 alarms and not ready warning.
I did notice this time when switching on via the green button, there is a faint click noise like a small relay going in, and then a second click. Nothing as powerful as would be if a contactor were conecting though.
Bob
New power supply fitted, still 2 alarms and not ready warning.
I did notice this time when switching on via the green button, there is a faint click noise like a small relay going in, and then a second click. Nothing as powerful as would be if a contactor were conecting though.
Bob