NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

All info relating to the Denford NovaTurn CNC lathes

Moderators: Martin, Steve, Mr Magoo

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Thu 05 Mar , 2015 23:50 pm

Hello all!! I have been very busy working on several projects. I have started my retrofitting of a NovaTurn. I will be using Yaskawa AC servos 100W. I will post more pictures and video soon. If you want to see some basic videos please go here;

CNC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg8HZzmHRtQ
Sound Card https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Xj6C5Uq2I

I have demonstrated Ubuntu 10.04, LinuxCNC and Windows 7, 32bit-MACH3 using a MESA 6i25 for closed loop analog servo control and a PCIe x1 parallel port card to breakout board for open loop stepper control.
In a previous post a few years ago, the unit does not have the controller cabinet. I am designing a new unit. It will be very small.
The Gizmosphere is approx 3.96" x 3.96". The iBOB2 is approx 2.5" x 2.56" in size.
To Admin, I would love to demonstrate your software running on this system if possible.

I welcome any comments or thoughts.
I am still interested in locating a tool turret for this lathe if one is available.

Thanks,

Robert Blanton
Attachments
Yaskawa Servo 2015-03-04 14.28.18a.jpg
Start of retrofit.
Yaskawa Servo 2015-03-04 14.28.18a.jpg (250.34 KiB) Viewed 37306 times

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Mon 16 Mar , 2015 16:18 pm

The "Schematic Circuit Diagrams for the Novaturn" reference SHEET number 4, for the 42 way connector. Sheet 4 is not part of the circuit diagrams. Is sheet 4 available?


Thanks,

Iron-Man

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Fri 20 Mar , 2015 0:20 am

Just finished the new X axis servo motor plate. I used my converted Sherline Mill with DC servo amplifiers that I built/designed a few years ago. If anyone is interested, please let me know. Most of the initial work is posted on CNCZONE under Iron-Man Servo. I will be powder coating the parts. I have already started the new design for the Z axis servo plate.

I welcome any comments.

Thanks
Attachments
Yaskawa Servo Plate X Axis Mill  2015-03-17 20.28.49.jpg
Sherline Mill Servo Plate X Axis
Yaskawa Servo Plate X Axis Mill 2015-03-17 20.28.49.jpg (132.5 KiB) Viewed 37261 times
Yaskawa Servo Plate X Axis 2015-03-19 17.45.17.jpg
Yaskawa Servo Plate X Axis
Yaskawa Servo Plate X Axis 2015-03-19 17.45.17.jpg (82.47 KiB) Viewed 37261 times

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Mon 30 Mar , 2015 16:38 pm

Completed Z Axis Servo plate. X Axis Servo plate trial fit. The Z Axis did not come out as planned. I may redo it. I will also be retrofitting a Denford Triac Mill with Allen Bradley AC Servos.


I welcome any comments.

Thanks
Attachments
Sherline Z Axis Plate, 03-29-2015web.jpg
Sherline Mill Z Axis Servo Mount
Sherline Z Axis Plate, 03-29-2015web.jpg (426.73 KiB) Viewed 37236 times
Test Fit X Axis Servo Plate 1, 03-27-2015web.jpg
Test Fit X Axis Servo Mount
Test Fit X Axis Servo Plate 1, 03-27-2015web.jpg (427.29 KiB) Viewed 37236 times
Z Axis Servo Plate Polished, 03-29-2015web.jpg
Z Axis Servo Mount Polished
Z Axis Servo Plate Polished, 03-29-2015web.jpg (229.71 KiB) Viewed 37236 times

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Thu 02 Apr , 2015 13:49 pm

Picture of iBOB2. The iBOB2 turns the Gizmosphere 1 into a powerful CNC controller. You can attach Mesa cards, parallel port cards or any PCIe compatible card.
Attachments
iBOB2 ver 2small.jpg
iBOB2 PCIe x1 interface card.
iBOB2 ver 2small.jpg (240.13 KiB) Viewed 37221 times
Last edited by Iron-Man on Thu 02 Apr , 2015 23:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.

TDIPower
CNC Guru
CNC Guru
Posts: 613
Joined: Tue 29 Apr , 2014 18:38 pm
Hardware/Software: Starturn 5 (sort of running, I will get this done!)
Lathe cam designer V1.11
Quickturn 2D Design
FANUC offline and online programs.
Microrouter Pro NS V5 (microstep)
VR2 and VR5
Boxford VMC260
Techsoft 2d Design tools V1 > V2
ProDesktop
Fusion 360
Deskproto

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by TDIPower » Thu 02 Apr , 2015 20:51 pm

not much metal left on the inner wall of those slots! I'm sure you have thought about that. Good work!

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Thu 02 Apr , 2015 23:06 pm

TDIPower wrote:not much metal left on the inner wall of those slots! I'm sure you have thought about that. Good work!
Thanks for the comments. I am trying to make as little modifications as possible. The piece is 1/4" aluminum and is very strong. When I get the Triac retrofitted, I may redo the parts in steel.

Thanks

Iron-Man

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Mon 06 Apr , 2015 0:02 am

From This:
Gizmo 1 I-O plate 04-03-2015web.jpg
Gizmo 1 I-O plate 04-03-2015web.jpg (400.35 KiB) Viewed 37193 times
Gizmo 1 test fit I-O plate 04-03-2015web.jpg
Gizmo 1 test fit I-O plate 04-03-2015web.jpg (424.14 KiB) Viewed 37193 times

To This:
Gizmo 1 I-O Shield Polished_web.jpg
Gizmo 1 I-O Shield Polished_web.jpg (314.44 KiB) Viewed 37193 times
iBOB2 Gizmo 1 I-O Polished Shield_web.jpg
iBOB2 Gizmo 1 I-O Polished Shield_web.jpg (363.64 KiB) Viewed 37193 times
Gizmo 1 I-O Shield Polished trial fit 2web.jpg
Gizmo 1 I-O Shield Polished trial fit 2web.jpg (343.97 KiB) Viewed 37193 times
The I/O shield is now ready for powder coating.

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Tue 21 Apr , 2015 1:09 am

Assembly drawing ST6_0700 shows a # 2MT taper inside part # ST5/703, are the dimensions of this part available? In addition, is part ST5/704 a brushing / bearing?

After a little research, just figured out the part is a "Morse Taper Socket Adapter". I will try this model and adjust as needed; https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/00185041

Thanks
Attachments
ST6_0700.pdf
(68.91 KiB) Downloaded 2243 times

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Thu 21 May , 2015 15:43 pm

Parts powder coated and ready for install. Currently working on the CNC controller.
Attachments
Gizmo 1 I-O Plate Powder Coated.jpg
Gizmo 1 I/O Plate Powder Coated
Gizmo 1 I-O Plate Powder Coated.jpg (327.54 KiB) Viewed 37106 times
Z Servo Plate Powder Coated.jpg
Z Servo Plate Powder Coated
Z Servo Plate Powder Coated.jpg (314.22 KiB) Viewed 37106 times
X Servo Plate Powder Coated.jpg
X Servo Plate Powder Coated
X Servo Plate Powder Coated.jpg (325.82 KiB) Viewed 37106 times

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Thu 28 May , 2015 3:54 am

This is what I have in mind for the control panel. I hope to build my own tool changer and C axis. The Gizmosphere will eventually be located inside this cabinet. The cabinet was not available when I started initial design work. The DC drive is a 4 quadrant "servo motor" drive.

I welcome any comments.

Thanks
Attachments
hardinge control panel.JPG
hardinge control panel.JPG (221.81 KiB) Viewed 37079 times
control panel inside.jpg
control panel inside.jpg (412.95 KiB) Viewed 37079 times
control panel cut out.JPG
control panel cut out.JPG (209.14 KiB) Viewed 37079 times
control cabinet taped layout.JPG
control cabinet taped layout.JPG (219.39 KiB) Viewed 37079 times

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Wed 24 Jun , 2015 2:38 am

Cleaning up the NovaTurn and bellows. First custom I/O cable completed. Working on the CNC controller and testing servo motors.

I welcome any comments.

Iron-Man
Attachments
custom I-O cable #1.jpg
Custom I-O cable
custom I-O cable #1.jpg (495.61 KiB) Viewed 37004 times
Bellows 2 repaired.jpg
bellows 2 repaired
Bellows 2 repaired.jpg (319.01 KiB) Viewed 37004 times
Bellows 2 before.jpg
Bellows 2 before
Bellows 2 before.jpg (337.69 KiB) Viewed 37004 times
Bellows 1 repaired.jpg
Bellows 1 repaired
Bellows 1 repaired.jpg (177.45 KiB) Viewed 37004 times
Bellows 1 before.jpg
Bellows 1 before
Bellows 1 before.jpg (268.3 KiB) Viewed 37004 times
Novaturn clean-up.jpg
NovaTurn clean-up
Novaturn clean-up.jpg (701.85 KiB) Viewed 37004 times

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Fri 07 Aug , 2015 17:34 pm

I have been working on a design based on the iBOB2 and Gizmosphere 1. The Dimensions of the GQ1 are Width 6.79", Height 6.61" and Depth 10.29". It has 6 axis of +- 10V analog servo control and all I/O are available on 2 DB50 and 1 DB 25 connector. The RJ45 is for a pendant interface. It could also be made for step and direction. I prefer true closed loop control. I plan on selling the iBOB2 for anyone who wishes to make a ultra small CNC controller or place the complete controller within a small case or enclosure.
The small circuit board in the back left is the iBOB2.
This will be used for the NovaTurn Lathe.
Attachments
GQ1.jpeg
GQ1.jpeg (511.49 KiB) Viewed 36909 times
GQ1back.jpg
GQ1back.jpg (404.07 KiB) Viewed 36909 times

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Mon 10 Aug , 2015 21:57 pm

I need to machine my own chuck key. Can anyone post the specs and a high resolution image of the NovaTurn chuck key?

Thanks,

Iron-Man

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Mon 24 Aug , 2015 22:37 pm

Does anyone have the exact part number for the NovaTurn encoder or data sheet?
I should be posting video of the NovaTurn AC soon.

Thanks,

Iron-Man

TDIPower
CNC Guru
CNC Guru
Posts: 613
Joined: Tue 29 Apr , 2014 18:38 pm
Hardware/Software: Starturn 5 (sort of running, I will get this done!)
Lathe cam designer V1.11
Quickturn 2D Design
FANUC offline and online programs.
Microrouter Pro NS V5 (microstep)
VR2 and VR5
Boxford VMC260
Techsoft 2d Design tools V1 > V2
ProDesktop
Fusion 360
Deskproto

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by TDIPower » Wed 26 Aug , 2015 22:11 pm

it's coming on well. nice to see the progress.

Pete

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Mon 31 Aug , 2015 1:29 am


User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Mon 31 Aug , 2015 22:39 pm

TDIPower wrote:it's coming on well. nice to see the progress.

Pete
Pete thanks for the comment.

Iron-Man

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Fri 16 Oct , 2015 0:31 am

I have had to repair the encoder, it was faulty / defective. I have posted all the information that I could locate that might identify the encoder.
It appears to be a 755A with a 10mm shaft with flat. In the Novaturn, only A and index are used.
I modified my encoder to provide all signals, A A', B B', Z Z' which will be used for position control.
I had to replace the ET7272B as it was faulty. I may modify the case to accept a 10 pin connector for quick disconnect.
For those of you who might have a damaged or faulty encoder, please see the information below.
I am currently designing a circuit to interface the Hardinge control panel to the MESA 7i77. This circuit will control the leds and membrane switches without using any additional I/O on the 7i77.
Has anyone looked at the Gizmosphere for CNC / control applications?

I hope this helps,

Iron-Man
Attachments
Encoder housing 1 2015-09-16 20.39.33.jpg
Encoder housing 1 2015-09-16 20.39.33.jpg (180.4 KiB) Viewed 36570 times
Encoder Housing 2015-09-16 20.37.55.jpg
Encoder Housing 2015-09-16 20.37.55.jpg (198.97 KiB) Viewed 36570 times
Encoder Novaturn 2015-10-14 22.05.09.jpg
Encoder Novaturn 2015-10-14 22.05.09.jpg (284.17 KiB) Viewed 36570 times
Encoder Test Set-Up 2015-09-29 21.27.30.jpg
Encoder Test Set-Up 2015-09-29 21.27.30.jpg (457.01 KiB) Viewed 36570 times
et7272_a1.pdf
(47.85 KiB) Downloaded 3926 times
Encoder 755a-shaft.pdf
(746.18 KiB) Downloaded 2525 times

User avatar
Iron-Man
CNC Apprentice
CNC Apprentice
Posts: 81
Joined: Mon 28 Feb , 2011 9:40 am
Hardware/Software: Modified NovaTurn with Yaskawa AC Servos +-10V, PathPilot running on a GizmoSphere 1 with Ibob2 PCIE interface that I designed. Denford Triac to be modified with AC Servos.

Re: NovaTurn Servo retrofit AMD Gizmosphere iBOB2 PCIe x1

Post by Iron-Man » Wed 11 Nov , 2015 3:44 am

PathPilot on AMD Gizmosphere1, T40E + iBOB2

I am almost finished. I have PathPilot running on the GizmoSphere 1.
Specs:
G-T40E dual-core processor running at 1.0 GHz, combined on a single die with AMD Radeon™ HD 6250 discrete-class graphics. The board provides a performance capacity of 52 gigaFLOPS (GFLOPS) at less than 10 watts. Custom high- and low-speed edge connectors enable a full range of functions. This unprecedented level of integration between serial and parallel processing offers a power-efficient foundation for high-performance multimedia content delivery across a broad range of embedded designs such as digital signage, x86 set-top box (xSTB), IP-TV, thin client, information kiosk, point-of-sale, casino gaming, media servers and industrial control systems.

Currently decoding I/O on the Hardinge interface. The MPG, Axis select, and Rapid Override are functioning under Linuxcnc. I just need to change the bit file and 7i77 I/O for complete functioning.


Iron-Man
Attachments
GizmoSphere 1 PathPilot 2015-11-09 20.jpg
GizmoSphere 1 PathPilot 2015-11-09 20.jpg (381.48 KiB) Viewed 36475 times
Hardinge Test 2015-11-09 small.jpg
Hardinge Test 2015-11-09 small.jpg (450.2 KiB) Viewed 36475 times
Novaturn 2015-11-09 small.jpg
Novaturn 2015-11-09 small.jpg (345.68 KiB) Viewed 36475 times

Post Reply