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firebird
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Viceroy TDS 1/1GB

Post by firebird » Wed 30 May , 2007 22:12 pm

Hi
Can anyone help me?
I am new to this kind of turning I’ve Bought a Viceroy TDS 1 / 1GB serial number 285229m
Will the M stand for metric, will that be the leadscrew and will the original main power switch run a single phase motor in reveres the switch is like the one pictured in ( dazz Posted: Thu 02 Nov , 2006 10:42 Post subject: Viceroy T.D.S 1/1 G.B - All finished ) but not the lathe mine is more square looking
And can anyone tell me the date of manufacture from serial number 285229m

This information will be much appreciated
Thanks
Firebird

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Post by Andy B » Thu 31 May , 2007 10:04 am

Hi Firebird,

We haven't yet found any information to track serial numbers back to dates on these manual machines, except for the 280 'Synchro' models which had a year of manufacture stamped on the S/No. plate.

Does your machine have a metric pitch screwcutting gearbox and metric top & cross-slide dials?
And is the chuck fitting a thread or camlock?
The 'more square looking' shape suggests it is probably a Mk2 (see http://www.lathes.co.uk/viceroy/page4.html).

I don't see why the existing switch gear shouldn't be capable of reversing a 1ph motor, but I think you'll need to re-wire everything. A 3ph motor is reversed simply by swapping 2 of the phase lines, whereas for a 1ph motor you just reverse the connections for the start winding only.

Andy

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Post by firebird » Fri 01 Jun , 2007 21:10 pm

Hi Andy
Thanks a lot for your help while cleaning the cabinet out I found what looks like a delivery invoice can’t see much thick of oil it’s says Viceroy TDS 1/1GB metal turning lathe complete with std equipment 380/440/3/50 (metric) and inspected by a Mr Hall but no date it is required for delivery w/c 5/11/79 so this will give me some idea how old it is.

On a plate on the gearbox it says 3mm L/Screw, the apron, and tool jib and cross slide dials are in metric and imperial
Inside the back cover there is a spare set of change gears like the picture on this Webb site http://www.lathes.co.uk/viceroy/page4.html).

The chuck is fitting with a threaded back plate
As for the motor I’ll leave it as it is running in forwards on a dial switch might unscrew the chuck in reverse

I think there must be something wrong in the gearbox can’t get first gear so I’ll have to have a look

Once again thanks for your help

Firebird

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Gearbox problem

Post by Andy B » Mon 04 Jun , 2007 12:34 pm

Firebird,

I assume you've read the notes on operating these gearboxes.

Is it the front dial or the quadrant-type lever that you cannot select position '1'? The dial needs to be positioned fairly exactly before the quadrant lever can be moved.

Andy

Andy B
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Gearbox problem

Post by Andy B » Mon 04 Jun , 2007 12:34 pm

Firebird,

I assume you've read the notes on operating these gearboxes.

Is it the front dial or the quadrant-type lever that you cannot select position '1'? The dial needs to be positioned fairly exactly before the quadrant lever can be moved.

Andy

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