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Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Tue 09 Jun , 2020 15:19 pm
by AlanC1959
Hi, I hope someone can help me.

I have rescued a Maxirouter (it was going to be scrapped!)

I have reassembled it, but it's status is showing as "Emergency Stop" even though the e-stop has been reset.

I suspect a loose or damaged wire somewhere, does anyone have a wiring diagram please?

The green LED on the board shows stope

Also, I have found one limit switch under the table, but cannot see any more, am I right in thinking that a limit switch may also cause the machine to show "Emergency Stop"?

Thanks in advance.

Alan

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Fri 12 Jun , 2020 10:48 am
by Martin
Hi Alan

Some of the limit switches are inside the stepper motors.

Have you tried pressing in & holding the Axis Limit Switch Override which should be near the E-Stop button. It should bypass all the limit switches.

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Sun 14 Jun , 2020 15:44 pm
by AlanC1959
Hi Martin, thanks for the help so far.

The stepper motors haven't been disassembled, so I don't think that's the problem then.

I don't have an override next to the E-Stop button.

There's a slider on the ESR module inside the wiring cabinet, is that it? Sliding that to the left sounds like it's resetting something, but doesn't get rid of
the E-Stop message.

Photos:https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wxnvqrqexuja ... g1jTa?dl=0


Regards
Alan

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Sun 14 Jun , 2020 22:10 pm
by TDIPower
I'm not familiar with the Maxi but the ESR is the E stop relay, the slider as far as i can tell is a manual operation of it.

The override Martin mentioned I believe could be the green button next to the E_stop switch.

I know this might sound daft but you have reset the e-stop switch (twist and it should pop up)

Have you see the last comment in this post? http://www.denfordata.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2901


Pete

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Sun 14 Jun , 2020 22:16 pm
by Martin
You could also try to move each towards the centre of it`s travel away from any limit switches.

What version of VRMilling are you running from? We did have to make some alterations to the home directions years ago.

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Thu 18 Jun , 2020 17:06 pm
by AlanC1959
TDIPower wrote:
Sun 14 Jun , 2020 22:10 pm
I'm not familiar with the Maxi but the ESR is the E stop relay, the slider as far as i can tell is a manual operation of it.

The override Martin mentioned I believe could be the green button next to the E_stop switch.

I know this might sound daft but you have reset the e-stop switch (twist and it should pop up)

Have you see the last comment in this post? http://www.denfordata.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2901

Pete
Hi Pete,

I thought the slider would be a manual reset, unfortunately, it did nothing to help me.

The green button is for the suction pump.

No such thing as a daft question, but yes, the e-stop switch has been reset.

Is the e-stop circuitry normally closed (NC), or normally open (NO)?

I'll take a look at that comment at the weekend.

Thanks for the suggestions

Alan

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Thu 18 Jun , 2020 17:12 pm
by AlanC1959
Martin wrote:
Sun 14 Jun , 2020 22:16 pm
You could also try to move each towards the centre of it`s travel away from any limit switches.

What version of VRMilling are you running from? We did have to make some alterations to the home directions years ago.
I had already moved everything to the centre (X,Y & Z) thinking that would do it.

I'm using v5.19.0.408

I was told it was working perfectly before disassembly (which I did, with plenty of photos of the wiring beforehand)

I think I'll try another PC with the latest version at the weekend.

I can only look at it for so long, because it's making me so frustrated!! :ReallyMad:

Thanks
Alan

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Thu 18 Jun , 2020 17:30 pm
by Martin
Are the electrical drawings inside the electrical cabinet?

Not sure when we are back in the office but I should be able to find some then.

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Thu 18 Jun , 2020 18:20 pm
by AlanC1959
Martin wrote:
Thu 18 Jun , 2020 17:30 pm
Are the electrical drawings inside the electrical cabinet?

Not sure when we are back in the office but I should be able to find some then.
No, they are not, It would be fantastic if you could find some.

To be clear, this is an identical machine:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/69gemaq95ob4w ... r.jpg?dl=0

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Thu 18 Jun , 2020 22:16 pm
by Martin
Just noticed in one of the pictures you put on drop box that the 0 Volts to the E-Stop Contact Coil (wire 60) is still in the trunking & not connected to to terminal A2 on the contact.

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Fri 19 Jun , 2020 17:04 pm
by TDIPower
flipping heck Martin did you double as an eagle eye action man as a kid! I noticed the A2 terminal wasn't screwed down but not knowing the machine didn't realise.

Lets hope that's hope thats the problem!

Pete

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Fri 19 Jun , 2020 18:54 pm
by AlanC1959
It certainly did fix it!

Thank you very much.

I didn't think I had needed to undo that when dismantling.

I took photos of every connection as soon as I stripped off the trunking covers, and it wasn't connected then.

Maybe it was loose, and dislodged when taking the cover off.

Anyway, the problem I now have is that I have no movement in the X axis. Y and Z move when jogging, but nothing on the X axis.

Any ideas what I should check? connections, etc

It has Nextmove ST with USB interface if that helps.

Thanks again,

Alan

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Sat 20 Jun , 2020 7:44 am
by Steve
Post some pictures of the connections to the control card on the machine.

Does the X axis motor get warm when you power on the machine?

When you try to jog the axis is there any noise?

Does the position display change?

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Sat 20 Jun , 2020 13:16 pm
by AlanC1959
I've posted some pictures of the control board here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wxnvqrqexuja ... g1jTa?dl=0

The orange and green LED's on the board are flashing

No the X-axis motor doesn't get warm

No noise

The display position does change.

It's as though there's no power to the X axis, I've checked fuses F1 to F5

TIA

Alan

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Sat 20 Jun , 2020 18:38 pm
by AlanC1959
I'm a numpty!

:delirious:

I had wired the motor incorrectly on the board

But at least I was right about it not having any power!

While trying to get it working, I upgraded the software to 5.69, and ran the I/O diagnostics.

This shows "E Stop Enable relay and E stop feedback both as NOT OK"

Ideas please?

Thank you all for your help.

Alan

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Sun 21 Jun , 2020 23:05 pm
by Martin
Can you post of a screen shot of what you are seeing. Not 100% sure what you are describing.

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Wed 24 Jun , 2020 14:49 pm
by AlanC1959
Here's the screen I'm talking about

https://www.dropbox.com/s/soweshdh32uz0 ... 6.jpg?dl=0

Thanks
Alan

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Wed 24 Jun , 2020 22:23 pm
by Martin
Does the machine work?

Some of the interlocks are tied in to the current machines we supply.

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Wed 24 Jun , 2020 22:27 pm
by AlanC1959
I haven't cut any jobs with it yet, I wanted to make sure the warnings were OK.

It does seem to be working OK though, I'll put it to work now.

Thanks very much Martin,

Alan

Re: Maxirouter Emergency Stop Help

Posted: Fri 03 Jul , 2020 11:13 am
by AlanC1959
It works!

I made a spoil board for it over the weekend with CNC created holes and fence.

Thanks very much everyone

Alan