WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

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WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by DrewD » Wed 17 Jan , 2018 2:42 am

Hello, I'm looking for a fixed steady and a set of metric Thread cutting change gears to buy. I think the gears are A-G??? I don't really use the internet that much and since my Grandad passed away I've got no1 I can ask for help. It's my first lathe I bought my self as the lathe I used to use had to be sold for the "family" that suddenly appear after years. It seems everything I want to make I need to cut threads or a steady. I don't know if this is even the right place to ask but if anyone can point me in the right direction that would be great. Thanks again

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Pete. » Thu 18 Jan , 2018 1:49 am

Hi Drew,

Sorry to hear about your grandad, it sounds like he meant a lot to you.

Your lathe has a gearbox on the front? With a round dial and a lever that you can set to N at the top or one of 5 positions? If so then the A-G gears are usually held on a stud under the end gear cover. If they are missing come back and let us know. Post up some pics of your lathe in any case.

The steadies are very hard to come by. You might do better to make one.

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by TDIPower » Sun 21 Jan , 2018 20:49 pm

I have a 4 1/2" steady but can't remember if it is a fixed or traveling. it fits the bed on my Boxford TUD but as I have the later TUD I need a 5".
Ill try and remember to look in the Garage tomorrow after work. If you can find out if it will fit let me know. I was going to put it on ebay.

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by DrewD » Wed 31 Jan , 2018 0:53 am

Thanks guys for the replys. Yes my Grandad is the whole reason I love engineering in general. I don't come on the internet that often as you can probably see but I'm going to start. I'll take some pictures and see what you both think. The change gears were missing when I bought the lathe but at the time I thought the gear box did the work. I have got gear D but I read that's something to do with reversing aswel as cutting threads??? It's got the numbered dial 1-5 on the front with the lever to match 1-5. I'll get back asap with some pictures and go from there. Thanks again

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Pete. » Wed 31 Jan , 2018 1:17 am

Gear D doesn't do reversing, except that it sits on the tumbler reverse pivot. The tumbler itself does the reversing. What the lettered gears do is allow you to cut the full range of threads as shown on the front of the gearbox.

Look at the gear cutting chart. You'll see letters in the boxes along the top. The threads below the letter D are the ones you can cut right now with your one change gear. On a metric machine that means 1.0, 1.5, 2.0, 3.0 of the common-use thread pitches. For 1.25 and 1.75 you'll need a G and for 0.8 you'll need an A.

It's a shame your gears are missing, they are usually kept on that stud.

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Walid » Tue 30 Oct , 2018 23:34 pm

Hi
I m walid from egypt cairo
I have new lathe viceroy 280 vs put without change gear
Only D24 tooth
I thing
I need 6 gears
Plase any one give me the size thes gear dimation and how many tooths in all gears from the 6 gears for the threads matric lathe
Like
D gear 24 tooth . And 41 .15 mm dimation
Thank you
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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Pete. » Tue 30 Oct , 2018 23:40 pm

Hi Walid.

The spare gears should be stored on a bolt inside the gear change cover. Are you sure that they are not there?
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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Pete. » Tue 30 Oct , 2018 23:50 pm

Just in case you really don't have them, here is the full drawing set for getting new ones made. This is for the metric lathe.
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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Walid » Tue 30 Oct , 2018 23:55 pm

Pete. wrote:
Wed 31 Jan , 2018 1:17 am
Gear D doesn't do reversing, except that it sits on the tumbler reverse pivot. The tumbler itself does the reversing. What the lettered gears do is allow you to cut the full range of threads as shown on the front of the gearbox.

Look at the gear cutting chart. You'll see letters in the boxes along the top. The threads below the letter D are the ones you can cut right now with your one change gear. On a metric machine that means 1.0, 1.5, 2.0, 3.0 of the common-use thread pitches. For 1.25 and 1.75 you'll need a G and for 0.8 you'll need an A.

It's a shame your gears are missing, they are usually kept on that stud.
Yas for 1.25 mm - 2.5 mm and 5mm
Need G gear
Plase how many tooths for G gear
And
How many tooths for
A gear
B gear
C gear
E gear
F gear
And G gear
If you can I need dimation to all gears from A to G
I wall make all of this gears
With my pest wash

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Pete. » Wed 31 Oct , 2018 0:00 am

All the info is there in the PDF Walid. I guess you were typing your reply when I was posting it.

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Walid » Wed 31 Oct , 2018 0:14 am

Mestar pete
Thank you very mach
You replay in sam time
I m sarch in nit from 3 days for this formation
I soory my english not good
Do you thaing what materyal for the gears peter catst or still or naylon (plastic)

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Pete. » Wed 31 Oct , 2018 0:16 am

Original gears are just normal mild steel. You'd have to be careful with plastic gears but they might get you out of trouble. You could keep the steel D gear on there most of the time.

Do you have gear cutting equipment?

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Walid » Wed 31 Oct , 2018 0:22 am

Pete. wrote:
Wed 31 Oct , 2018 0:00 am
All the info is there in the PDF Walid. I guess you were typing your reply when I was posting it.
Thank you viry mach

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Walid » Wed 31 Oct , 2018 0:28 am

Pete. wrote:
Wed 31 Oct , 2018 0:16 am
Original gears are just normal mild steel. You'd have to be careful with plastic gears but they might get you out of trouble. You could keep the steel D gear on there most of the time.

Do you have gear cutting equipment?
Yas I have dril with big tapol and rotary tapol and anather lathe

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Walid » Wed 31 Oct , 2018 1:31 am

Pete. wrote:
Tue 30 Oct , 2018 23:50 pm
Just in case you really don't have them, here is the full drawing set for getting new ones made. This is for the metric lathe.
All size with insh or empiryal
Do you have drawing matric size

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Pete. » Wed 31 Oct , 2018 7:05 am

Walid for Metric sizes just multiply by 25.4

So, for example, for 0.625" ---- 0.625 x 25.4 = 15.875mm
For 9/16" ---- 9/16 x 25.4 = 14.2875mm

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Walid » Wed 31 Oct , 2018 9:17 am

Pete. wrote:
Wed 31 Oct , 2018 7:05 am
Walid for Metric sizes just multiply by 25.4

So, for example, for 0.625" ---- 0.625 x 25.4 = 15.875mm
For 9/16" ---- 9/16 x 25.4 = 14.2875mm
Ok I now and I have convertr in my fhon
Mester pete
Do you thaing
The lathe matric like my viceroy
If we pring anather gears gave us emperial threads (like A-to -G) not all gears

Or
Metric lathe for metric only (mm)
And emperial lathe for emperial only (inch )

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Walid » Wed 31 Oct , 2018 11:36 am

Pete. wrote:
Wed 31 Oct , 2018 7:05 am
Walid for Metric sizes just multiply by 25.4

So, for example, for 0.625" ---- 0.625 x 25.4 = 15.875mm
For 9/16" ---- 9/16 x 25.4 = 14.2875mm
Ok I now and I have convertr in my fhon
Mester pete
Do you thaing
The lathe matric like my viceroy
If we pring anather gears gave us emperial threads (like A-to -G) not all gears

Or
Metric lathe for metric only (mm)
And emperial lathe for emperial only (inch )

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Pete. » Thu 01 Nov , 2018 20:46 pm

You can't do metric-inch or inch-metric by just changing the stud gears a-g, you need compound gears like 127/100 or 127/130 in the train. There's a lot of info about on it but basically the answer to your question is no.

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Re: WANTED FIXED STEADY + CHANGE GEARS VICEROY TDS 1.1

Post by Walid » Tue 06 Nov , 2018 16:25 pm

Pete. wrote:
Wed 31 Oct , 2018 7:05 am
Walid for Metric sizes just multiply by 25.4

So, for example, for 0.625" ---- 0.625 x 25.4 = 15.875mm
For 9/16" ---- 9/16 x 25.4 = 14.2875mm
Do you have link from e bay for all change gears viceroy 280 vs plase (mitric lathe)
I m tray sarche but l cant found change gears for viceroy
In ebay
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